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the nsa says it's simply not true. but this isn't helping shape the relationship. >> scott, thank you so much. yahoo, google say they are out raged that they may have been spied upon. what's their biggest fear? what's the worst that can happen if the government starts collecting daytime that from people with google accounts? >> i think, first of all, they're very upset because they know that they're supposed to be keeping their information private and secure. so if the government is breaking into americans acounts, they shouldn't be doing that. >> so tell us about -- tell us about this drawing that was leaked alodge with some other edward snowden documents. does it show how the nsa broke into google. >> >> yes, think of google as having multiple data centers around the world. what apparently, it did, the fiberoptic connections, they tabbed into. they put a clip on or had a way to monitor what was going through those fiberoptic cables. that's something we've learned from snowden that they've been doing around the world.
the nsa says it's simply not true. but this isn't helping shape the relationship. >> scott, thank you so much. yahoo, google say they are out raged that they may have been spied upon. what's their biggest fear? what's the worst that can happen if the government starts collecting daytime that from people with google accounts? >> i think, first of all, they're very upset because they know that they're supposed to be keeping their information private and secure. so if the government is...
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why wasn't the nsa more forthcoming to the president of the united states? >> and dianne feinstein has just confirmed publicly that this spying on angela merkel's telephones goes back to 2002. it's my understanding president obama, she says, was not aware of chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 2002. that is a big problem. he's met with the chancellor of germany on numerous occasions. you would have thought somebody would have said to him mr. president, by the way, we listen to her phone conversations on her cell phone, you should know this. >> i talked to people on both sides of this. some say if he didn't know, he should have known. he should just have assumed it. others say well, this is the way the nsa operates and you need to pierce that and you need to change the system, because just because as jay carney said today, just because they can gather all this information doesn't mean that they should gather all this information. that's why it's clear the president is having a review in the wake of the edward snowden disclosures but
why wasn't the nsa more forthcoming to the president of the united states? >> and dianne feinstein has just confirmed publicly that this spying on angela merkel's telephones goes back to 2002. it's my understanding president obama, she says, was not aware of chancellor merkel's communications were being collected since 2002. that is a big problem. he's met with the chancellor of germany on numerous occasions. you would have thought somebody would have said to him mr. president, by the...
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. >> let's talk about issues, the nsa, i want to play a clip. >> nsa includes the interception. >> including audios, documents, chat logs, and e-mails. >> everybody is at risk for getting caught up in the nsa dragnet. >> here is a question for you, oliver, i know you have been pretty strong about this. if you were the president of the united states, how far would you allow the nsa to do their work, how would you draw the line? >> he has been far more eloquent about the issue, it is a line we cannot cross and we crossed it. >> where is the line, where should we be? >> there is a moral integrity that we have to respect. everybody has a right. you can't sell this idea that we're protecting you against the terrorists as greenwald has. the terrorists are a small group of people. and we have bugged the whole world, put all -- the hay stack is all there, and anything goes. and into the future. and that is what concerns me the most, because even if obama is a reasonable man, what if we did have a terror incident of major proportions, or there was another president that comes in, call it to the right
. >> let's talk about issues, the nsa, i want to play a clip. >> nsa includes the interception. >> including audios, documents, chat logs, and e-mails. >> everybody is at risk for getting caught up in the nsa dragnet. >> here is a question for you, oliver, i know you have been pretty strong about this. if you were the president of the united states, how far would you allow the nsa to do their work, how would you draw the line? >> he has been far more eloquent...
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he could have pursued it in the nsa, taken it up to the inspector general. if that wasn't good enough, he could have gone to court. in fact he's saying he could come back and face the charge in course. that's the legal way to pursue his case. his position, of course, is he won't get a fair trial here. >> the whole issue of u.s./iranian relations. today we saw a huge demonstration marking the 23rd anniversary of the takeover of the -- what does that say about this effort to try to improve this relationship? >> you're getting conflicting signalses, some are true replyial opposition, some are more political posturing, and playing to a local audience, which is important there. so today the protest at the u.s. embassy marking the anniversary of the takeover. the protesters burning flags were, by the way, on sale at stores, and others even carrying mockups of centrifuges. but you also have the supreme leader of iran, arguably the biggest skeptic of the country warming up to u.s., calling on iranians to give negotiators time. the administration here is also asking
he could have pursued it in the nsa, taken it up to the inspector general. if that wasn't good enough, he could have gone to court. in fact he's saying he could come back and face the charge in course. that's the legal way to pursue his case. his position, of course, is he won't get a fair trial here. >> the whole issue of u.s./iranian relations. today we saw a huge demonstration marking the 23rd anniversary of the takeover of the -- what does that say about this effort to try to improve...
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. >> did he ever express any hatred toward the government or nsa? >> all the findings that came out, he was very sun either and thought ts after the abused their power. >> stephanie elam is in los angeles this morning with more. good morning, stephanie. >> reporter: good morning. the woman knows of the people who lived in this place with the shooter and it was very strike to go hear how everything went down. and if you listen to a little bit more of the conversation they had, it helps to paint a picture of what they realize was happening. >> at that moment that they're seeing this on the tv, their third roommate comes back and says i just dropped off paul at l.a.x.. and they knew he had just dropped off paul to a shooting. >> absolutely disturbing to hear that, carol. now what we also know is where the shooter is from in the southern new jersey. they got text messages, his family did, his younger brother, his dad saw them apparently and alerted the chief of police in their town. that police officer then reached out to los angeles, they did a welfare
. >> did he ever express any hatred toward the government or nsa? >> all the findings that came out, he was very sun either and thought ts after the abused their power. >> stephanie elam is in los angeles this morning with more. good morning, stephanie. >> reporter: good morning. the woman knows of the people who lived in this place with the shooter and it was very strike to go hear how everything went down. and if you listen to a little bit more of the conversation they...
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but they're saying that it pales in comparison to their complaints over the widespread nsa dragnet. the u.s. can't seem to get away from this controversy. john kerry was asked about it by reporters in poland when he made a stop there. he skirted the question of whether they were the actually the u.s. spying on polish leaders, but he repeated what the obama administration is saying, that is they're conducting a big review of this. again, reiterating what he said in the past, that a will the of this espionage, a lot of this dragnet, had overreach and in the meantime as we know, the u.s., the white house, the obama administration, is trying to figure out ways of reigning in some of the espionage. we're not sure how that's going to revolve around this nsa and how they're going to come together to do that, but there is obviously a huge political fallout that continues over this. >> i suppose the question is is, has it really harmed relations between countries and we can also talk about great britain's reported spy program and outposts in berlin, in germany. is that something that countri
but they're saying that it pales in comparison to their complaints over the widespread nsa dragnet. the u.s. can't seem to get away from this controversy. john kerry was asked about it by reporters in poland when he made a stop there. he skirted the question of whether they were the actually the u.s. spying on polish leaders, but he repeated what the obama administration is saying, that is they're conducting a big review of this. again, reiterating what he said in the past, that a will the of...
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meanwhile a top republican lawmaker is defending the nsa surveillance program abroad saying it keeps allies "safe." congressman mike rogers told our candy crowley the reports that the u.s. spied on millions of french citizens is misguided. >> maybe there's something more to that. i argue if the french citizens knew exactly what that was about they'd be applauding and popping champagne corks. it's a good thing, keeps the french safe t keeps the u.s. safe t keeps our european allies safe so this whole notion that we're going to go after each other on what is really legitimate protection of nation state interests i think is disingenuous candidly. >> mike rogers calling it disingenuous, something like that classic scene from "casablanca." >> everybody is to leave here immediately. this cafe is closed until further notice. clear the room at once! >> how can he close me up? >> i'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here. >> your winnings, sir. >> thank you very much. >> we'll talk more about this all of this and the fallout throughout the show, but cnn chief national sec
meanwhile a top republican lawmaker is defending the nsa surveillance program abroad saying it keeps allies "safe." congressman mike rogers told our candy crowley the reports that the u.s. spied on millions of french citizens is misguided. >> maybe there's something more to that. i argue if the french citizens knew exactly what that was about they'd be applauding and popping champagne corks. it's a good thing, keeps the french safe t keeps the u.s. safe t keeps our european...
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. >>> after nsa edward snowden met with a german lawmaker in moscow he reportedly said he is willing to testify. he will go to nogermany as longs that country doesn't send him to the us. he said in a manifesto today that he feels justified in spilling intelligence secrets. the german lawmaker who met edward snowden said the confessed leaker wants to testify in front of congress. >> he stressed that he is ready to come before the german parliament to testify and that he would rather go before the pairliment and put the facts on the table. >> she says he is making his own decisions and is not being manipulated by the russians. >> despite the police state surveillance state we have been turning into. i think he would love to come back some day if the conditions plitly were different. >> nsa chief alexander, the turmoil now giving him second thoughts on whether spying on al lies like german chancellor merkel was worth it. >> i think those partnerships have greater value than some of the collection and we ought to look at it like that. >> the intelligence community denies collecting repor
. >>> after nsa edward snowden met with a german lawmaker in moscow he reportedly said he is willing to testify. he will go to nogermany as longs that country doesn't send him to the us. he said in a manifesto today that he feels justified in spilling intelligence secrets. the german lawmaker who met edward snowden said the confessed leaker wants to testify in front of congress. >> he stressed that he is ready to come before the german parliament to testify and that he would...
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spain reports the nsa listened in on 60 million phone calls in a single month. in germany, the newspaper records, president obama was briefed by nsa chief keith alexander about spying on angela merkel's calls. the nsa quickly denied the report telling cnn general sander did not discuss with president obama in 2010 an alleged foreign intelligence operation involving german chancellor merkel, nor has he ever discussed alleged operations involving murkle. the nsa says the willingness up to now to deny present and future monitoring. >> i can tell you the president can assure the chancellor, the sungs not and will not 3407b tore the conversations of the chancellor. >> reporter: they are coming to the u.s. to challenge their american counterparts, after breaking quote german law on german soil. house chairman rodgers defended the nsa under surveillance on cnn sunday saying it was both well regulated and essential to keeping both americans and europeans safe from terrorism. >> i think the biggest story here, candy, if the united states intelligence services weren't try
spain reports the nsa listened in on 60 million phone calls in a single month. in germany, the newspaper records, president obama was briefed by nsa chief keith alexander about spying on angela merkel's calls. the nsa quickly denied the report telling cnn general sander did not discuss with president obama in 2010 an alleged foreign intelligence operation involving german chancellor merkel, nor has he ever discussed alleged operations involving murkle. the nsa says the willingness up to now to...
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we'll start with nsa spying and uproar it caused in europe especially. germany's former defense minister will explain what is going on there. and then the former nsa director will help us understand what america's spies are really doing around the world and michael bloomberg called the mayor of the world. with the election of his successor on hand, what lessons does bloomberg have to share with us? one of th,
we'll start with nsa spying and uproar it caused in europe especially. germany's former defense minister will explain what is going on there. and then the former nsa director will help us understand what america's spies are really doing around the world and michael bloomberg called the mayor of the world. with the election of his successor on hand, what lessons does bloomberg have to share with us? one of th,
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i thought they would declare victory and say let's go on to nsa and spying and other stuff. but they are selfish and destructive. >> do you think they've done some good? >> again, i said they did some good. they got people back to the table. i think speaker gingrich would agree with this. they got washington to curb its appetite for excessive spending, there's more investment that should be made and more job creation that would also help reduce the deficit. >> you mentioned excessive spending. i think this is one of the great challenges that de blasio's going to have in new york. for 20 years you had giuliani and bloomberg. and they've emphasized taking on the work force of the city government and public safety. now you have someone who's running who's major promise is to fire commissioner kelly, who is committed to much higher taxes. my question is this, to what degree is this victory potentially going to move new york onto the detroit kind of trajectory, when new york was almost ungovernable at one point. i understand it's a great progressive victory to van. but the one pr
i thought they would declare victory and say let's go on to nsa and spying and other stuff. but they are selfish and destructive. >> do you think they've done some good? >> again, i said they did some good. they got people back to the table. i think speaker gingrich would agree with this. they got washington to curb its appetite for excessive spending, there's more investment that should be made and more job creation that would also help reduce the deficit. >> you mentioned...
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where he was talking about the tsa, he was talking about the nsa. and that he said he wanted to instill fear in the tsa agents for the way they conduct themselves. now why he got to the point that he was so angry at the tsa, that's a question we still don't know. and we don't know if we'll ever get an answer, because at this point, ciancia is still unresponsive. if he does come to, he faces two felony charges on what he did do, wolf? >> thanks very much, stephanie elam. we're also learning more about the tsa officer killed in the shooting. jirardo hernandez was what's being called a behavior determination officer at l.a.x. he had been at the airport for three years. hernandez leaves behind a wife and two children. and was a week away, only a week away from celebrating his 40th birthday. two other officers, james spear and tony griggsby were wounded. they've been released from the hospital. a local schoolteacher, brian ludber was also wounded, he's still in the hospital. >>> there's some calling for all tsa officers to be armed at airports. coming up
where he was talking about the tsa, he was talking about the nsa. and that he said he wanted to instill fear in the tsa agents for the way they conduct themselves. now why he got to the point that he was so angry at the tsa, that's a question we still don't know. and we don't know if we'll ever get an answer, because at this point, ciancia is still unresponsive. if he does come to, he faces two felony charges on what he did do, wolf? >> thanks very much, stephanie elam. we're also...
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. >> did he ever express any hatred towards the government and nsa? >> all the nsa findings that came out this year, he was upset about it and thought tsa abused their power. >> tsa said this picture is legitimate. he was shot at least twice. his face and neck hit. he is wearing chinos, a polo shirt. no ballistic vest no. special clothing. he looks like any other traveler. >> at that moment they're seeing this on the tv the third roommate comes back and says, i just dropped off paul at lax. they just knew, they knew you dropped off paul to a shooting. >> oh, absolutely amazing story. the other victims in this, two tsa agents that were shot by mr. ciancia, allegedly so they have been relessed from the hospital. a traveler shot in the leg is in fair condition and ciancia as i understand it from sources in law enforcement may have been shot as many as five times t. irony of all this, if he survives those injuries, he may face the death penalty. chris, back to you. >> thank you so much, miguel. such a terrifying scene playing out friday morning. more on t
. >> did he ever express any hatred towards the government and nsa? >> all the nsa findings that came out this year, he was upset about it and thought tsa abused their power. >> tsa said this picture is legitimate. he was shot at least twice. his face and neck hit. he is wearing chinos, a polo shirt. no ballistic vest no. special clothing. he looks like any other traveler. >> at that moment they're seeing this on the tv the third roommate comes back and says, i just...
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. >>> the nsa spying scandal engulfing the white house. new allegations this morning that the u.s. was spying on dozens of foreign leaders and a shocking admission as to when the president was made aware. >>> and another huge setback for the obama care website. new, a critical data center
. >>> the nsa spying scandal engulfing the white house. new allegations this morning that the u.s. was spying on dozens of foreign leaders and a shocking admission as to when the president was made aware. >>> and another huge setback for the obama care website. new, a critical data center
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. >>> still ahead in the money lead, google going off on the nsa in no uncertain search terms. the company furious over allegations that spies peeked at google's status centers. stick with innovation. stick with power. stick with technology. get the flexcare platinum. new from philips sonicare. >>> welcome back to "the lead." time for the buried lead. usually the buried lead is a story we think has not gotten enough attention but that's partly the case for toronto mayor rob ford, who was accused of smoking crack. what is buried here is the video that purportedly shows him doing it. police told reporters last week they have recovered a video from a computer seized during a drug investigation that is quote, consistent with what news outlets have reported that mayor rob ford was caught on tape smoking a crack pipe. very few people have claimed to have seen the video and mayor ford is not one of them but he took time on a weekly radio show that he hosts with his brother to say that he is sorry for his behavior. >> i have made mistakes and all i can do right now is apologize for the
. >>> still ahead in the money lead, google going off on the nsa in no uncertain search terms. the company furious over allegations that spies peeked at google's status centers. stick with innovation. stick with power. stick with technology. get the flexcare platinum. new from philips sonicare. >>> welcome back to "the lead." time for the buried lead. usually the buried lead is a story we think has not gotten enough attention but that's partly the case for toronto...
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brooke, as you just heard, the attorney general says they were starting to talk about some of these nsa programs even before the edward snowden disclosures came about earlier this year. now, those discussions probably happened behind closed doors. these are programs that are still secret, as you know. but he also, i asked him whether or not he would consider clemency for snowden. snowden this week issued a letter in which he said because of all the conversation that he spurred in the united states and in europe, that perhaps he should get clemency from the u.s. charges that have been filed against him. as you know, he's hiding out in russia right now. the attorney general said that was not something he would consider because there were better ways for snowden to try to make his point about what needed to happen on surveillance. we also talked about marijuana and the attorney general said he and the president had talked about the effect on the african-american communities. a lot of young african-american men get their first arrest records for marijuana, so he talked about that and the ne
brooke, as you just heard, the attorney general says they were starting to talk about some of these nsa programs even before the edward snowden disclosures came about earlier this year. now, those discussions probably happened behind closed doors. these are programs that are still secret, as you know. but he also, i asked him whether or not he would consider clemency for snowden. snowden this week issued a letter in which he said because of all the conversation that he spurred in the united...
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>>> data sweeps by the nsa will continue for the foreseeable future. the obama administration says it is looking to reign in surveillance practices overseas. "the new york times" reports the president and his advisers believe there is no workable alternative to bulk collection of data. >>> we're hearing horrifying details from one of the young women held captive by castro. she tells dr. phil she was tied it up by her hands, feet and neck using an extension cord. knight, along with amanda berry and gina dejesus were freed from castro's home in may. >>> details emerging on how that college student in new york city became wedged in a space between two buildings trapped for a nightmarish 36 hours. he told them he was walking on the roof in the dark saturday and didn't see the gap between the buildings and fell. his incredible rescue came sunday after firefighters cut through a concrete wall to free him. >>> houston texans coach gary kubiak expected to remain in the hospital for another day. doctors believe kubiak suffered a mini stroke when he collapsed on
>>> data sweeps by the nsa will continue for the foreseeable future. the obama administration says it is looking to reign in surveillance practices overseas. "the new york times" reports the president and his advisers believe there is no workable alternative to bulk collection of data. >>> we're hearing horrifying details from one of the young women held captive by castro. she tells dr. phil she was tied it up by her hands, feet and neck using an extension cord....